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Google launches Gemini 4 Argon, its first frontier model since Gemini 3Access confirmed limited to paying subscribers
6 Oct 13 4:48 PM · 1d ago · 3 articles · 4 posts · 20 comments · 5 sources · development 6 of 7
Reporting clarified Argon is gated behind paid tiers: Pro/Ultra in the Gemini app and Ultra-only in Antigravity, with developers getting a 50% discounted API rate through November.
“Classic Google: Clicks the "Try in Gemini" button from the Gemini 4 page, gets a page that defaults to Gemini 3.6, with no option to try Gemini 4 without upgrading.”
vidarh, Hacker News commenter · hn ↗Google / Google DeepMind Developer of Gemini 4 ArgonLogan Kilpatrick Google (OfficialLoganK)Artificial Analysis Independent AI benchmarking firmOpenAI Rival AI lab (GPT-6 Astra)Anthropic Rival AI lab (Claude Fable/Opus)
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first by Digital Trends, 1d ago · also Google
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- Gemini 4 Argon is now available for developers. Google · 1d ago
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first by Android Authority, 1d ago
What people said 24 voices · best of 26 · verbatim
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Gemini 4 Argon is now available for PRO subs, but only though the Gemini App. Trying to build something cool with it.
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It’s wild how good it is at explaining nuanced and complex health topics.As an example, I recently had an OCT scan of my retina because I'm a “glaucoma suspect.” I'm a glaucoma suspect because I have an unusually high cup-to-disc ratio, which is a pattern typically seen in glaucomatous patients.As part of this OCT scan, you get a report back on…
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Classic Google: Clicks the "Try in Gemini" button from the Gemini 4 page, gets a page that defaults to Gemini 3.6, with no option to try Gemini 4 without upgrading.If they don't want to make it available even for small tests for free, that's fine, but then don't put a button suggesting I can try it without qualifying it...EDIT: It's actually…
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I'd love to play with this but something freaks me out: we heard no later than yesterday hackers ruining tens of millions of food by heating connected fridges in supermarket in France.What happens when people decide to hack the Unitree robots and have them pick up knives and stab their owner and then go on a spree in the street?Before people say…
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I haven't tried it for coding yet, but I ran a couple of my recent curiosity driven queries from Claude (mostly used Fable and Opus 5.5) through it.This is a clear step change, I'm genuinely amazed.Its answers are to-the-point, logically structured, clearly written. Like a really well made mini essay on your question.It also really likes to build…
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Ha, same experience here. It opened my Gemini and gave me images like “Design a terrarium with Gemini 4” - proceeds to pick 3.1 Pro from the picker because 4 just doesn’t exist in the dropdown. Typical Google.I really can’t believe how bad the Gemini experience is. I have personal paid workspace account, and meant to have some better AI Google…
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I used it for analyzing a strategy in a game of another top submission, the game try to guess your selection of random numbers, I gave Gemini the strategy but its analysis was not very deep, the model should have tried to simulate the game, propose some biased distribution and the correlation. The strategy I suggested is: You first think of a…
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People should appreciate Google more for how all of their models have:- Natively multi-modality- Enormous context windows- Reliably cheap pricesIt's like they don't release a model until it passes the above checklist.Most providers have some mixture of these three occasionally, but with Google, every model is consistent. This kind of consistency…
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Google continues to be the best in German language and Gemini 4 is a significant jump in our benchmarks
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I’m curious at the enterprise level does Anthropic have staying power. My sense is when you use it with your own custom harness, it doesn’t, I can switch between Opus 5.5 or Gemini Argon and not really care as long as capabilities are similar. This is good for the consumer, and bad for the model developers.
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Do you think the R1 you got can actually be taught to clean dishes and put them in a dishwasher in their specific sections? I see it doing so in
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We have this same point made every release. I wonder if models actually are getting better or if these companies are just secretly hamstringing the previous models before releasing a similarly performing model
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> I don't know if that page was built by humans or AI, but clearly nobody tested it properly....or Gemini 4 is being gradually rolled out and is not available to everyone all at once.
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> I'll be using this for everything that isn't coding from now on.why? is it not so good on that? or is there something better performance, or better price for same performance?
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I'd like to do this too.What's the latency like? Is the llm used to create an instruction set for the robot? How is it interrupted for reflex actions like controlling stumbling?
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I have $6 free credits from Google. The hoops you have to jump through are insane. $200 free credits from Anthropic are stupid simple to use. I know which one I’m using…
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It shows a good improvement on my COCO object detection benchmark: 0.504 mAP zero-shot.Gemini 3 Flash was around 0.403, 2.5 Pro was around 0.34.
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I spent like 40 minutes trying to figure out how to sign up and try Gemini 4. I am a GCP user; it is so convoluted to do a simple sign-up.
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Totally agree. This is my new favorite general-purpose/non-coding model. It's surprising how good this thing is...
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Em dashes are underappreciated — they are visually pleasing, not cluttery like semicolons or definitive like colons.
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Google's models have usually been pretty good at general query stuff, they fall flat when doing harder tasks.
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Awesome, now only if i could get my hands two of those robotic hands and make myself my dish cleaning slave...
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My first reaction after reading the announcement post is that the coding scores look like a weak point.
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Coding? This is Hacker News. We're supposed to be bashing how shit it is at creating svg's
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