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90.5% of the topk websites fail HTML validation

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  • To a first approximation, this doesn't matter anymore. "Valid HTML" used to be a big deal because when you left the HTML spec you were inviting the various browsers to interpret your non-standard HTML in differing ways, sometimes quite catastrophically so for the styling or how the Javascript would interact with the page.This is no longer anywhere…

    jerfHacker News14h agoview on Hacker News ↗
  • > An unclosed tag occurs when an opening HTML tag like <div>, <p>, or <span> is missing its corresponding closing tag.Since when does <p> requires a closing tag? Note that TFA lists this among "spec violations" and not merely "best practices".

    teo_zeroHacker News14h agoview on Hacker News ↗
  • This is exactly why HTML is so ubiquitous, because it is so tolerant of mistakes in formatting, syntax, and just about anything else.Most browsers will even read and process most of the things listed on this page because even if the spec doesnt say so, it just makes sense to anyway.

    alt227Hacker News15h agoview on Hacker News ↗
  • The claim in the title does not match the linked website. The 2.6% figure only includes websites that also follow some arbitrary set of "best practices" in addition to being valid HTML, some of which actually contradict best practices from the past.

    account42Hacker News14h agoview on Hacker News ↗
  • As an aside, what is up with the design of clearly vibe-coded websites? You can tell it's AI from intuition, but is there a list of "tells"? Like black background, gradient text, font? Would love to learn more and how to combat

    gkolliHacker News6h agoview on Hacker News ↗
  • As someone who valued that "Validated by w3c" button on my website back in the day, if a website today has FULLY valid HTML, I gaurantee you the admin is a massive nerd.

    INTPenisHacker News15h agoview on Hacker News ↗
  • 50% of my errors are “<font> is deprecated”. If browsers stop supporting that I’m guessing huge swathes of the web will be affected, so I’m guessing it will never happen.

    JSR_FDEDHacker News15h agoview on Hacker News ↗
  • I would def argue this is a feature of the net ( that people from all walks of browsers can see mostly the same thing ) and not a bug.

    cyanbaneHacker News15h agoview on Hacker News ↗
  • > "Valid HTML" used to be a big dealTo a point that there was an actual badge for it.

    tomkarhoHacker News14h agoview on Hacker News ↗