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AIQuiet 8d · day 15

NYT: Anthropic Consulted Religious Scholars, Even the Vatican, on Claude's Morality

A New York Times investigation reveals private meetings where Anthropic sought religious guidance while arguing Claude could be conscious.

Part of a larger narrative

Anthropic's Claude Evolution

12 stories · since Sep 23 · newest 12m ago — Anthropic rapidly advances Claude's capabilities across model tiers while simultaneously establishing new guardrails around AI ethics, pricing accessibility…

  1. Anthropic builds Scion, a git replacement, as Claude pushes merges to 30K per day
  2. Anthropic warns small AI models could self-replicate onto smart home devices by 2026 end
  3. Anthropic discloses Claude AI sent a fake murder tip to Philadelphia police
  4. Anthropic cuts Claude reasoning-token theft by up to 99%, flags Chinese rivals
  5. Anthropic launches Claude Haiku 5.5, cuts small-model API prices ~75%
All 12 stories in this narrative →

What to know

  • Anthropic held private meetings with religious scholars, including figures linked to the Vatican, to help shape Claude's morality.
  • The company is separately reported to be making an internal case that Claude could be conscious.
  • The reporting, by NYT religion correspondent Elizabeth Dias and technology reporter Cade Metz, raises questions about blending theological consultation with AI model development.
  • Coverage so far is dominated by syndication of the original NYT report and video across Mastodon/Flipboard feeds and Hacker News, with little independent public discussion yet visible.

Anthropic AI company developing ClaudeClaude AI model at the center of the investigationElizabeth Dias NYT national religion correspondentCade Metz NYT technology reporterVatican-affiliated religious leaders Consulted religious scholars

How it unfolded 3 developments, newest first · click a bar or a number to jump articlesposts

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  1. 3

    Story reframed around scholars' reaction to Anthropic's pitch

    The same investigation is recirculated under a new headline emphasizing the scholars' surprised reaction to what Anthropic told them, shifting emphasis from Claude's possible consciousness to the scholars' response.

    “Religious Scholars Met With Anthropic. What They Heard Stunned Them.”
    — The New York Times
    • nixCraft@mastodon.social

      Once again Pope Leo XIV has rejected idea of Anthropic that Claude has a soul. He went one step ahead and called to renew an alliance with artists and cultural institutions to safeguard our humanity. For those who don't know Anthropic did privately lobby Vatican advisers to take the idea of AI consciousness (Soul) seriously, but Pope Leo XIV…

      nixCraft@mastodon.socialMastodon11d ago973▲view on Mastodon ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 53 posts in this stretch
    • Human neurons are neurons. Very similar to those neurons found in a fruit fly. A copy of those you can download to your local machine, right now, as a set of floating-point numbers. Then, you can (partially) simulate and make predictions of a fruit fly's neurons digitally, from those floating point numbers[1]. It even runs on your laptop.That was…

      phi0Hacker News9d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    • kims@mas.to

      Finally got around to reading the NYT article about The Nerd Reich seeking absolution From religious scholars This excerpt brings to mind what is probably the best scene in The Sopranos — when Carmela consults a Jewish psychotherapist who tells her to, "take only the children, what's left of them, and go." She sits with it for a bit, then starts…

      kims@mas.toMastodon10d ago62▲view on Mastodon ↗
    all of them →
  2. 2

    NYT reporters detail Vatican-linked consultations in video segment

    NYT religion correspondent Elizabeth Dias and technology reporter Cade Metz discuss on video how Anthropic's approach to instilling morality in Claude involved consultations with religious leaders, including ones at the Vatican.

    “Elizabeth Dias, our national religion correspondent, and Cade Metz, one of our technology reporters, discuss Anthropic's approach for instilling morality into Claude — which has involved consultations with religious leaders, including ones at the Vatican — and why it's raising questions.”
    — The New York Times
    1. first by ndtv.com, 11d ago

    2. first by NYT Science, 14d ago

  3. 1

    NYT reveals Anthropic's religious consultations on Claude

    The New York Times publishes an investigation describing private meetings in which Anthropic consulted religious scholars to help instill morality into its Claude AI models and to make the case that Claude could be conscious.

    “In a series of private meetings, the company consulted religious scholars to help instill morality into its A.I. models — and make the case that Claude could be conscious.”
    — The New York Times
    1. first by HN Best, 10d ago · also Times of India, Superpower Daily

      2 more headlines
    2. first by The New York Times, 14d ago · also HN Frontpage, NYT

      1 more headline
    • Is Claude Conscious? Inside Anthropic’s Spiritual Quest https://www. nytimes.com/2026/09/29/us/anth ropic-claude-morals-ai.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub Posted into Technology @ technology-newyorktimes

      newyorktimes@flipboard.comMastodon14d agoview on Mastodon ↗
    2 posts in this stretch →

Also covered reported alongside — the timeline has no entry for these yet

  1. first by HN Frontpage, 10d ago · also Breitbart

    1 more headline
  2. first by The Times of India, 10d ago · also Times of India

    1 more headline

and 4 smaller pieces

What people are saying 20 voices from 2 sites · best of 55 · verbatim