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Security researcher Micah Flee tells users to ditch ChatGPT and Claude for open models

In a new essay, Flee argues OpenAI and Anthropic's surveillance-like guardrails and data access make open-weight models like GLM-5.3 the better choice.

What to know

  • Flee contends OpenAI and Anthropic retain full access to chat sessions even when users opt out of training, and apply strict automated monitoring ('cop agent') to cybersecurity-related use.
  • He criticizes OpenAI's Trusted Access for Cyber and Anthropic's Cyber Verification Program, which grant select companies and likely government/military users less-restricted model access.
  • He argues open-weight models like GLM-5.3 are roughly four months behind proprietary models but adequate for complex tasks including vulnerability research, without the monitoring overhead.
  • The essay frames frontier lab leadership in ideological terms, drawing on the book 'End Times Fascism and the Fight for the Living World' by Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor.

“Every session has a cop agent reading your transcript over your shoulder, making sure you're not using it for hacking. If it thinks you might be, the cop agent stops your session from continuing.”

Micah Flee, Security engineer, blogger · micahflee.com ↗ · Oct 10

Micah Flee Software and security engineer, bloggerSam AltmanSam Altman OpenAI CEODario AmodeiDario Amodei Anthropic CEOOpenAI AI lab, maker of ChatGPTAnthropic AI lab, maker of Claude

Security researcher Micah Flee tells users to ditch ChatGPT and Claude for open models
micahflee.com

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    Flee promotes the essay on Mastodon

    Flee shared the essay on his Mastodon account, summarizing its argument that open-weight models now make reliance on ChatGPT or Claude unnecessary even for complex agentic tasks.

    “I just wrote about how good open weight models like GLM-5.3 are these days, and how you really don't need ChatGPT or Claude at all anymore, even for complex agentic stuff…”
    — micahflee@infosec.exchange
    • micahflee@infosec.exchange

      I just wrote about how good open weight models like GLM-5.3 are these days, and how you really don't need ChatGPT or Claude at all anymore, even for complex agentic stuff https:// micahflee.com/just-say-no-to-o penai-and-anthropic/

      micahflee@infosec.exchangeMastodon2d ago126▲view on Mastodon ↗
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    • I don't think it's hyperbole, I think it just sounds like hyperbole because it's so crazy. And we're kind of blinded to how crazy these founders are because they've just... been crazy for a while. A weird thing happens where if you're just a little bit crazy, people freak out. But if you're REALLY crazy, then nobody cares because they assume you…

      preg_matchHacker News1d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    • > I like hyperbole as much as the next guy. And I'm cynical by nature. But this just seems like a wildly pessimistic view that gives literally zero charity to anyone working at or leading a frontier lab.Reading TFA, I too paused on that sentence, thinking "This is overstated and feels like overheated rhetoric." My reasoning though is a bit…

      mrandishHacker News1d agoview on Hacker News ↗
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    Micah Flee publishes 'Just say no to OpenAI and Anthropic' essay

    Flee's blog post argues that OpenAI and Anthropic retain access to users' chat data despite opt-out options, impose strict 'cop agent' monitoring on cybersecurity use, and that open-weight models like GLM-5.3 are a comparably capable, less restricted alternative.

    “the American frontier labs are run by unhinged lunatics who genuinely believe they're creating the Machine God…”
    — Micah Flee
    1. first by HN Frontpage, 1d ago · also micahflee

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